I believe it was called "You Can be Gods Friend"
Amazon has it on DVD for sign language:
drew sagan
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Please help me find the name of the brochure.....
by asilentone inplease help me find the name of the colored brochure, it is a very easy read by people with very little education.
i remember one thing about inside the brochure, it says like you are friend of jehovah if you go to the kingdom hall or something like that.
if you see that kind of quote, can someone here post the link here, thanks!.
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would you want to be part of any religion that changes the bible on purpose?...
by oompa in...and makes it say what they want it to in order to fit their doctrines???
nearly every jw and non would answer no!
i wish i had started off my last elder visit with that question.
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drew sagan
would you want to be part of any religion that changes the bible on purpose?...
Sounds pretty fun if you ask me.
Time to start the First United Church of the Jefferson Bible Students. Who wants to join?
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Older posters check in...just post your name...we need to hear from you!
by restrangled ini am not the oldest but have 3 years here!
restrangled.. how about you?.
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drew sagan
Going to be 4 years this august.
Don't spend nearly as much time here as I did during my exit but still enjoy coming back. I'm glad simon never shut it down
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Must see video on Youtube where a JW is clearly defeated on the trinity subject...
by Tuesday inpersonally i hate bible ping-pong.
i don't think it ever gets anywhere, i don't think it solves anything and i don't think the participants ever make any head room.
however i will say in this case, i have been proven wrong.
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drew sagan
It's threads like this that makes me think 140 character twitter like character limits could useful around here
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Why did you pick your avator or username?
by cognac inwell, i picked my username because that's what i saw in front of me and i like the way it sounded.
no real story behind that.
i picked my avator because that's the way i felt.
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drew sagan
Another random thought. Is it just me or do you associate people with the avatars more than you probably should? I know that after I was here a while I kind of would be a little confused when people changed their avatar. It was like meeting a new person.
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Why did you pick your avator or username?
by cognac inwell, i picked my username because that's what i saw in front of me and i like the way it sounded.
no real story behind that.
i picked my avator because that's the way i felt.
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drew sagan
On a funny side note, I used to use Carl Sagan for my avatar. Somebody actully asked me one time if I was related
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Why did you pick your avator or username?
by cognac inwell, i picked my username because that's what i saw in front of me and i like the way it sounded.
no real story behind that.
i picked my avator because that's the way i felt.
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drew sagan
I mixed Drew Carey with Carl Sagan and there you have it. Just wanted to come up with a fake name (was an active JW at the time) and Drew Sagan was where I ended up.
I've had numerous avatars, currently mine is a photo of the one and only Michael Gondry
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Are you UNDERSTANDING towards Second, Third, and even Fourth-generation Witnesses on this forum?
by BonaFide indo you all realize how tough it is for a second-generation witness?
what about a third-generation witness?
fourth?.
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drew sagan
I have no family that are JWs, I entered the faith on my own.
Having been around 3rd and 4th generation JWs I can understand very well where you are coming from. Some of these families are defined by their JW lifestyle. Without it they would have a tremendous social loss in their life.
I'm sure that for some simply believing that older family members made a mistake by joining the JWs can be very hard. Some of the "old timers" are made out to be hereos in one way or another. To admit it is not the truth may feel like disrespecting their legacy in a way.
That being said I still don't believe that the JWs family/social bonds are that strong. The group tends to pit people against one another. I saw many families torn apart because of internal power struggles and bickering. Each situation is so unique its hard to define typical cases.
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Questioning me as an apostate
by God_Delusion ini am an active jw.
i was born in the "truth" (i really feel uncomfortable calling it that) and am now married to a witness.. for a year now, i have actually come to see that the gb are just business-psychologists.
anyone who views jehovah's witnesses as a religion and not a cult, really needs to evaluate their way of thinking and they also need to look up the definition of the word "cult".. anyway, my parents recently came over on holiday (they live in another country and are also residents of bethel).
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drew sagan
I think there is enough evidence of a racial memory with all the various flood accounts which are surprisingly similar, involving a person and animals reseeding planet for this to be an actual true memory. But people who don't want to believe in the flood will ignore this evidence looking for alternate explanations.
While the presence of deluge myths in ancient cultures gives us reason to believe that the source may be rooted in a historical event, it gives no indication as to what the actual details of that event where let alone provide adequite evidence that a divine power was involved.
Localized flooding, a tsunami, or other factors could well have been the source. The similarities in these stories when compared to the Bilblical account is often overrated by people hoping to validate the bible (the Watchtower had a chart in one of its books where it was pretty liberal in checking off similarities). Flooding is something that has and allways will continue to happen. Is it any surprise that localized agrarian cultures had myths surrounding a life altering event like this?
And then there is the Jewish cosmology in which Genesis was written.
I remember the first time I began to think about Bibles stories being myths instead of historical events. I actually got a little sad. I felt somewhat emotionally connected to these characters (fundamentalist JW frame of mind!) and beleving that they did not exisist hurt.
And yet that is the power of literature. It does not matter if something you are reading actually occurs or not. What matters is what you take away from it. Nobody reads the Lord of the Rings and gets sad because Frodo isn't a real person (ok, a few strange people do!).
It's about what the characters and stories mean to you and your own identity.
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Watchtower uses superior Brainwashing methods to "Demonize" blood Transfusions!
by Witness 007 inphase 1 - transfusions cause death, aids, hepatitis, infections, complications during surgery, blood rejection of the body etc etc etc....hundreds of negative articles convince you the blood is toxic poison!
although doctors tell you in an emergecy if you lose 4 litres you will die without one, and complications with blood are rare.. phase 2 - you can live forever in paradise if you don't have one and die.. phase 3 - many people have survived without one....it's over-rated.
many have made "miraculous" recoveries from near death after refusing blood.. phase 4 - non-blood substitutes are just as good as blood.
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drew sagan
Probability is everything. JWs are conditioned to believe that there is a greater probability a blood transfusion hurt rather than help. This is all done through sophisticated rhetoric that never discusses probability.
If the WTS really wanted to make an honest case for its policites it would publish some statistics. Are JWs more or less likely to die because of their refusal to take transfusions? If JWs actually accepted transfusions what would be the ratio of failed procedures to sucessful ones?
If the data was in their favor I'm sure they would publish it...
